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  How many hours of field service are now required?

  by new boy in

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  to be a publisher?.

  an auxiliary pioneer?.

  an regular pioneer?.

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  new boy

  To be a publisher?

  An auxiliary Pioneer?

  An regular Pioneer?

  I already know it takes 13,880 hours of field service to make one new convert.
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  A Question for Born-ins Who Had a Parent Leave the Cult Before They Did

  by jp1692 in

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  question: have any of you that are now exjws had a parent leave the religion before you, and you shunned them because of that?

  if so—and while you were still in the cult—what, if anything, could your parent have done to reach your heart and begin a reconciliation?

  it’s been almost ten years since i left the religion and my two sons continue to shun me and rebuff all efforts i make to reconcile.

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  I like what Slimboyfat said.

  "The only thing I can think might work at this point is to stop trying."

  I agree it's called the "reverse shun" talk to them one last time and basically tell them them this.
  

  "I love you guys more than life itself and I'm and always will be your Father and will always be here for you. I love you unconditionally which is something your church doesn't believe in. When you realize what unconditional love is and get your head out of your ass please come and talk to me. Until you can do that we have nothing more to say."

  P.S. I was once where you are now and I wish my father had spoken these words to me.

  You can't act like you did something wrong.
  

  
  
  
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  The ineffectiveness of the Watchtower Society preaching work

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  how can the watchtower society claim effectiveness in their 140 years of preaching the ''good news''..... spending billions of hours in ''field service'', having the ''faithful and discreet slave'' lead the preaching work, passing out billions of watchtower literature since the 1870's, while the pentecostals have been more effective using other evangelical methods?

  congregations.

  119,954. members.

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  new boy

  For the year of 2017 it was an average of 13,880 of preaching work for one new convert.

  What could throw this statistic off however is the fact that vast majority of people who are getting baptized now are "born ins."

  So who knows, it could take as much as 100,000 of preaching to get one new "non born in" into the church.
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  Refusing a blood transfusion

  by BourneIdentity in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello all, first post.

  i've been lurking for months and figured it was time to post a few things, i've been pimo for the last couple of years.. i was doing some thinking about an adult refusing a blood transfusion, especially one that has several children.

  when you married and had children, you signed up to take care of them, to love and protect them.

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  Soon, Beth and her husband would be in Jehovah’s Witness Hell. If she ever had any desire to join this church, it would soon be gone forever, after what would happen next.

  Beth called me a few months later, crying; I could barely understand her. I really didn’t know what she needed or wanted. Maybe she needed a shoulder to cry on. I told her we could meet for a cup of coffee. I had no words for what she would reveal to me.

  We met a few hours later at a busy restaurant. I wish you could have seen the look of bewilderment on this poor woman’s face. With tears in her eyes, she sat there. She told me about what had transpired over the last few months since we first talked on the phone.

  She said her husband was baptized as he promised. Being re-baptized, he became a zealot once again in his old faith. He didn’t seem to be as interested in her now that he had rejoined his old family and friends. He was now spending less and less time with her, his pregnant wife.

  Finally, the baby came. However, there were major complications at birth. It was life or death for the child unless the baby received a blood transfusion. Beth was, of course, in favor of this life-saving option. Her husband was definitely opposed to it.

  There were many heated arguments about this. The Elders and his parents got involved. His family informed her husband that he could not waver. There was no way he could give in on this matter. It was more than just a matter of life and death; it was a matter of faith and service to god and obeying His rules about no blood transfusions.

  Beth and her family fought her husband to the bitter end. She said he hated her and her stance against him and his faith. This drove a wedge between them even further.

  There was no time left and a decision had to be made. For whatever reason, he hung his head in shame and told the doctors to go ahead and give the child a blood transfusion. The Elders found out he gave the order for the blood transfusion and were furious. They told him there would be grave repercussions because of his decision.

  Two days later, the child died.

  The Elders actually told her husband they were not surprised about the child’s death. In a sense, they implied this was a punishment directly from god Himself. This was because he had actually disobeyed god’s commandments on the issue of blood.

  Her husband told the Elders he was wrong and blamed his worldly wife for the pressure she had put on him. He begged for Jehovah’s and the Elders for forgiveness.

  There was nothing I could say to comfort Beth after that story.

  Are they still together? I would doubt it.

  If you are a Jehovah’s Witness reading this, there are two things I would wonder. First, did god kill the baby because it received a blood transfusion to drive home His point to the disobedient husband? No? Even though the Elders implied that?

  Second, Beth will obviously never become a Jehovah’s Witness. Can you really blame her?

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  Watchtower can be greatfull they gave Michael Jackson the flick when they did

  by joe134cd in

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  i was just thinking how greatful wt can be that they dfed him when they did.

  could you imagine the hammering they would be taking now from the ex-jw community, in light of the recent documentary.

  i’m by no means sticking up for them i’m just saying, that’s all..

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  He send them (the organization) a shit load of money before he left so they would have never cut him loose.
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  Qualifying For A Kingdom Hall Funeral

  by minimus in

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  one of the most despicable things i can remember is having the elders determining whether or not you “qualified” for proper funeral services in a kingdom hall and if the talk could be given by an elder.

  people are hurting terribly and the family is then told, even though the deceased was a member of the congregation, they still weren’t good enough to qualify for proper burial services per the congregation!

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  Yeah, what do we do with suicides? Can we still love them or not? They are murders you know....
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  JUNE 2019 Watchtower: Higher Education - HQ & Bethels are populated with evil, educated folks!

  by The Fall Guy in

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  how alienated from jehovah and un-christian so many bethelites must be, who finished their higher education and gained their degrees!

  i don't know how they can live with their consciences!.

  pages 6 & 7, pars.

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  Yes, I made a big mistake by getting more educated. I know now why Jehovah really wants his people to be stupid. The worst thing for a mindless drone is more education.... who knows we could start something like critical thinking and we all know how dangerous that could be!
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  Seven006 ....where is he?

  by minimus in

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  i haven't heard from dave, also known as seven in a long time.

  i sent him a message here a while back and heard nothing.. does anybody know how he is faring?

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  I just found out by way of his brother in law that he died 2 years ago
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  Seven006 ....where is he?

  by minimus in

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  i haven't heard from dave, also known as seven in a long time.

  i sent him a message here a while back and heard nothing.. does anybody know how he is faring?

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  Does anyone know? Is he still with us?
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  The Fading Loop Hole

  by new boy in

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  my father in law (robert stillman) killed himself in 1993. after the "new light" came out in 1981 we could no longer have limited contact with dis-fellowedshipped persons.

  after years of being shunned by his only family he blow his brains out with a 38 special.

  at the time of his death, the only thing bob was doing that wasn’t in line with the society’s rules and regulations was smoking.

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  This is true but since this was almost 20 years ago and my Father didn't have the stigma of the classification of being DAed or DFed my ex wife didn't seem to mind his visits. For her like many others JWs it was out of sight and out of mind.